Frederick Philip Collins GILLAM

Frederick Philip Collins GILLAM

Male 1832 - 1912

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  • Name  Frederick Philip Collins GILLAM 
    Born  19 Nov 1832  Brighton, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender  Male 
    Died  30 Nov 1912  Brighton, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID  I3423  WillIam CONSTABLE
    Last Modified  13 Sep 2006 

    Father  Edward Philipe Collins GILLAM,   b. 23 Jun 1816, Brighton, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother  Ann Maria BILLINGHURST,   b. 1814, Chevening, Chipsteaf, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID  F1027  Group Sheet

    Family 1  Lucy POSTE,   b. 1839, Barcombe, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 19 Aug 1884, Barcombe, Sussex Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  9 May 1858  Brighton, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
    >1. Frederick Post COLLINS,   b. 1858, Brighton, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Nov 1940, Brighton, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    Family ID  F1024  Group Sheet

    Family 2  Frances CLAYDON,   b. 1840, Laawashall, Suffolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 25 Jan 1917, Barcombe, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  Aft 1884 
    Family ID  F1025  Group Sheet

  • Photos

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    Funeral of Capt Frederick Collins 1912
    Funeral of Capt Frederick Collins 1912
    'Skylark' excursion boat owned by Capt Fred COllINS,Brighton, Sussex, England
    "Skylark" excursion boat owned by Capt Fred COllINS,Brighton, Sussex, England


    Headstones
    Headstone Capt. Fred COLLINS and son Frederick Poste COLLINs
    Headstone Capt. Fred COLLINS and son Frederick Poste COLLINs

  • Notes 
    • In the 1891 the COLIINS family is living on the same street as Luther CONSTABLE and George CONSTABLE- brothers to Eliza CONSTABLE POSTE- mother of Lucy POSTE.

      This is 'Old Captain Fred Collins of "Skylark" fame. The 1851 Census gives his year of birth as 1835, but his baptism entry, and the Monumental Inscription on his grave, indicates his birth as 19.11.1832, and death 30.11.1912 aged 80 (Lewis Road Cemetery, R62/132); the 1861 Census for Brighton confirms this, as does his baptism on the 20th March 1836 states his birth as 19.11.1932, and at this time the address was Kents Court, Brighton.
      At the time of his marriage to Lucy Poste the address is 13 Queen Street, Brighton, and his occupation is stated as Pleasure boat Proprietor; witnesses to this marriage (by banns) were Henry Taylor and Sarah Gillam. Written in the margin of the marriage entry (Parish of St Nicholas, Brighton - entry 456 - 255/1/3/30 CRO L ewes) is:
      "For Gillam should read Collins Gillam - corrected on the 3rd September 1884 by me H.C.Beardmore, Curate of St Nicholas, Brighton in the presence of Frederick Philip Collins Gillam"

      The 1861 Census gives his address as Artilary Street, and the 1871 Census as Kings Road Arches. This latter address is an indication of his move to 'the Beach and his consequent growth of wealth.
      His will quotes Francis as his wife (2nd wife?), and also makes mention of error on the baptism of his son, namely that Gillam should have been Collins.
      According to the East Sussex County Record Office, no trace of a Frederick Collins living in Barcombe exists between 1831 and 1833, nor in 1878. Captain Frederick P Collins was living at 'Seaford House' in 1887, and by 1895 in 'Collingwood House'. The name of this house probably connects with his ancestor, Admiral Collingwood (see notes for Edward Collins). Exactly when he lived at 'Skylark Cottage', Barcombe (and he most certainly did) is therefore difficult to determine, but his son was living there until shortly before his death. According to a newspaper report (see below) he was living there from 1890 until 1910.

      The Brighton and Hove Gazette (15.6.1940) reported on the sinking of the "Skylarks" at Dunkirk, with a potted history of the Collins family. The family came from Ireland and have been on Brighton beach since 1700. Old Captain Collins grandfather served under Lord Howe at the 1st June Battle (1794) at Ushant.

      There are a considerable number of Brighton newspaper reports about Captain Collins (and later his son) and the following are just a few:

      BRIGHTON GAZETTE - APRIL 1, 1882 (PAGE 5)
      The Brighton lifeboat, the 'Robert Raikes' was launched for practice on Thursday morning last. Capt Fred Collins was in command, and there was a full crew. The proceedings excited considerable public interest.

      THE BRIGHTON HERALD - NOVEMBER 24, 1900
      CAPTAIN COLLINS SUMMONED BY THE REVENUE AUTHORITIES: A SUBSTANTIAL FINE
      The weather-beaten countenance of Captain Fred Collins, that ornament of the Brighton front, appeared above the bulwarks of the defendant's box to answer a long deferred summons taken against him by the Revenue Authorities for selling liquor without a licence in September last on several of his yachts, namely, on the smaller of his 'Skylark yachts, No. 118, and the 'Lady Sail', and the 'Swan'. Captain Collins had taken out a licence for his two larger 'Skylarks' and in respect of these no complaint was made.
      Mr Cecil Sampson, a solicitor who prosecuted on behalf of the Revenue authorities at Somerset House, said that the authorities would have been very unwilling to prosecute the defendant had he not neglected several warnings to take out licenses. Since due direction was made, Captain Collins had taken out a licence for the smaller 'Skylark'. He trusted that the penalties which would be imposed would be sufficient to prevent any infringement of the law in this district in future.
      Me E.E.Humphrey, barrister for the defence, said that he should not deny that there had been an infringement of the licensing laws, but he should have something to say in mitigation of the penalty.
      It was given in evidence by Mr Dewhurst, an Officer of the Excise, that Captain Collins had admitted to him that he knew he was committing a breach of the law, but that he had explained that the licence was so heavy, being as much as 5 for his small boats as for steamers.
      Questioning Mr Humphrey, the witness said he thought that Both Captain Collins and his son had been under the impression that they were entitled to use the licenses they had for the large boats for the smaller boats, when the large ones were not running. He did not deny that the sale of liquor had taken place quite openly, and he did not know that the defendant had sold any liquor on the small boats since these proceedings were instituted.
      Mr Humphrey said the small boats did not go out selling liquor when the large ones were out selling. Since Captain Collins had been proceeded against he had stopped selling except on the three 'Skylarks' for which licences had been taken out. Mr Humphrey pointed out, moreover, that defendant was paying a 12 months price for the licence which he only used for about half that period, and appealed for a mitigation of the penalties provided, promising that there should be no further infringement. The offences had been committed under a mistake.
      The Bench imposed the full penalty of 10 and cost in the case of the 'Lady Sail', and a nominal penalty - 20 shillings and costs - in each of the other four cases. Mr Collins wrongly chose to claim he was entitled to do as he did, although he was warned; but he must not do it again.
      MR HUMPHREY I think I can promise that.
      MR HEATHCOTE (STIPENDIARY MAGISTRATE) I know he's a persevering man when he has once made up his mind; but I don't think he will repeat this offence.
      MR HUMPHREY It's much too expensive, sir. (laughter)

      BRIGHTON HERALD - AUGUST 24, 1907
      Captain Fred Collins, of Skylark fame, who lives in Barcombe, unsuccessfully tried to board a train at Lewis. He managed to roll himself in the opposite way from that in which the train was going, and was not greatly hurt.

      BRIGHTON GAZETTE - NOVEMBER 23, 1910
      Congratulations from a very wide circle of friends reached Captain Fred Collins on his 78th birthday on Saturday. One of Brighton's oldest living celebrities, the 'Skylark's' breezy skipper is still a remarkably active man, and now, as for many years past, there is no more familiar person on the sea front. Regularly throughout the past season he was at the return of the biggest of the Skylark fleet, directing his crew and enlivening the yacht's passengers with nautical song and jest. He was born on November 19, 1832, and has a remarkable career. The first Skylark put to sea some 58 years ago, and it is his proud boast that he has never had an accident on the briny. He has saved many lives from a watery grave, and has aided many charitable causes. For instance, by his annual sailing trips in aid of the Royal Sussex County Hospital he has raised several hundred pounds towards the funds of the institution. He still lives at Barcombe, and travels to and from Brighton daily, as he has done for over twenty years.

      DIGEST FROM THE BRIGHTON AND HOVE HERALD - APRIL 1, 1939
      The famous Brighton 'Skylark', the property of the late Captain Fred Collins, was stolen! Mr Arthur Dunstall of Chester Terrace, an 86 year old veteran, was among those who helped to recover it and bring it back to Brighton.
      One night, Captain Collins, contrary to his usual custom, left the 'Skylark' a short distance off the shore, When morning came there was a heavy sea - but no 'Skylark'. So Captain Collins approached the owners of Brighton's first pleasure paddle steamer, the 'Brighton', on which Mr Dunstall was serving, and asked that the boat should go out and search for the missing craft.
      The 'Skylark' was eventually located in a mountainous sea about 25 miles south-west of Brighton. She seemed almost out of control, but there were three men aboard who had tried to steal her.
      It was not easy to establish contact with the 'Skylark', But Mr Bob Collins, brother of Captain Collins, gallantly went out in the Brighton lifeboat, and put the 'Skylark' in tow. The three men who had taken her away were arrested, and later punished.

      There is also a newspaper report on Captain Collins funeral on the 7th September 1912.

      There is a history of Captain Collins, and the Collins - Gillam name problem published in the Sussex Family History Magazine (July 1981), and additional history published in the Brighton and Hove Gazette and Herald (June 1983).



      ADDITIONAL NOTES
      The following details appear in various Street Directories for Brighton:

      Pages 1885 to 1888 Frederick Collins, 'Welcome Brothers', 55a Kings Road Arches, Brighton
      Pikes 1900 to 1935 Frederick Collins Snr, 'Welcome Brothers', 163 Kings Road Arches, Brighton
      1925 to 1935 Frederick Collins Jnr, 42 Church Street Brighton
      Frederick Collins Jnr, 'American Bowling Saloon', 166 Kings Road Arches, Brighton
      Frederick Collins Jnr, Photographer, 166 Kings Road Arches, Brighton
      Frederick Collins Snr, 'Welcome Brothers' & Yacht Owner,
      163 Kings Road Arches, Brighton
      1915 Frederick Collins, 17 Centurion Road, Brighton
      1934 to 1935 Frederick Collins, 15 Centurion Road, Brighton
      (I remember when very young visiting 'relatives' in Centurion Road)
      Pikes &
      Kellys 1920 and 1923 John Collins, 31 Mount Zion Place.


      Father: Edward Philipe Collins GILLAM b: 23 JUN 1816 in Brighton
      Mother: Ann Maria BILLINGHURST b: 1814 in Chevening, Chipsteaf, Kent.

      Marriage 1 Lucy POSTE b: 1838 in Barcombe, Sussex

      source: Robert Brian Ettridge